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Articles created/expanded on March 20Edit

Rick Suder

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Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 17:35, 20 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rick Suder; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Hook as written doesn't really say anything and the wording is confusing. Did Redick and McNamara physically bump him? Why is it interesting that Suder was passed in the record books? I made some direct edits to the article and added ALT1 hook as an option for a more descriptive hook. Would also improve the inline citing of your sourcing in the article. -— Preceding unsigned comment added by Longhornsg (talk • contribs) 03:17, March 21, 2023 (UTC) --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Personally I do not see the significance of mentioning JJ Redick and the others in the hook. Would it not be enough to say something like "at one point, Rick Suder was..."? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • My point is that Suder is less known than the other two people I mentioned, so it is sort of a big deal that it took a couple of much more famous people to bump him from the list.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:02, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That would probably not pass WP:DYKSG#C2, or at least the spirit of it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:29, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't really understand your point, which I think is suppose to be guiding the structure of my hook presentation.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:45, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think any of the proposed hooks are going to seem significant to readers unfamiliar with basketball and who don't know who JJ Redick is. That was the point I was making. If anything, their mention distracts from the main point and makes the hooks less accessible to general audiences (remember that we write even for audiences who aren't into basketball). It might be better to just leave their mentions out and just focus on the Top 25 thing without other names. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
JJ Redick is a surefire National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame for people who follow the sport. I.e., most people who know basketball, know him and would be intrigued by Suder's link to Redick. However, the mention of his name is not likely to detract attention from the hook of those who don't know the sport. I have presented an ALT3 and object to its use because it seems ridiculous to anonymize Redicks identity.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Articles created/expanded on April 5Edit

Bob Lee (businessman)

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Created by Thriley (talk) and ElijahPepe (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 15:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bob Lee (businessman); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Should his passing be mentioned? ("the late developer of Cash App"). But I do think that it should be rephrased like "had such exuberant energy playing water polo, that he was known as 'Crazy Bob'?". It reads to be stronger and less... boring? idk. SWinxy (talk) 19:11, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - The source uses the expression "unending energy" rather than "exuberant energy" and it may be better to use the former expression as a quotation.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Subject to my own comment, I agree with the comments by SWinxy.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Appears to be Symbol delete vote.svg as to nomination date. Otherwise, Symbol possible vote.svg. The lede should name the subject's mother if there's a reliable source for it. Her name was Nanette. The wording of the first par of "Early life and career" is a bit too similar to the source and needs to be altered somewhat. Additionally, the source is not cited and appears to be a blog of dubious reliability. Otherwise plagiarism appears to be not an issue. The other sources I checked substantiate the info for which they are cited, except the one for "In July 2001, while employed at Ajilon, Lee wrote a program for Microsoft IIS to defend servers from Code Red, at the time a rapidly spreading computer worm.", and that source is also a Wikipedia article, and therefore not reliable. Once the various issues have been addressed, I will review again. Bahnfrend (talk) 10:02, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your review. I’ll fix the article up soon. Thriley (talk) 02:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bahnfrend: Per WP:DYKSG, a nomination that is late by a day or two is usually still accepted, particularly if there are no other issues and if the nominator still wants to pursue the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:28, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Still interested, for the record. [email protected] (he/him) 01:49, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you are still interested, you need to address the issues as soon as possible, otherwise the nomination will be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:09, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol delete vote.svg Marking for closure due to a lack of response. Nomination can resume if the issues are addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:45, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I think the article looks fine. I’m not really sure the things mentioned in the review are problematic and cause the article to be unfit for DYK. Thriley (talk) 01:03, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ElijahPepe: Any thoughts? Thriley (talk) 01:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm going to have to agree here. It's a fine article, especially given the recentism towards his death. [email protected] (he/him) 01:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gonna ping Bahnfrend for their thoughts as they're the review. Isn't recentism a bad thing though? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:42, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The majority of the article covers his life, not his death, so WP:RECENTISM does not apply. Articles about Lee only started appearing after his death, so it's very easy to get carried away by his death itself. [email protected] (he/him) 02:32, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: My thoughts are as set out above. Plagiarism, even if confined to part of an article, and inappropriate sourcing, are not trivial. The nominator hasn't addressed my comments yet. When that has occurred, I'd be happy to review again. I agree that the one day delay in nominating should be waived if the other points are fixed. I don't think that there's any problem of recentism. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:44, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Where do you see plagiarism? [email protected] (he/him) 15:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svgI think a new review would be helpful. Thriley (talk) 21:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new-ish enough. No neutrality problems found, no maintenance templates found, and I fail to see any plagiarism so I'll assume it's been fixed. QPQ done. Hook is sourced but boring - what else have you got?--Launchballer 06:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Articles created/expanded on April 7Edit

United States documents leak of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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  • ... that classified documents of the United States were partially leaked onto a Discord server for the video game Minecraft? Source: NBC News
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: QPQ not needed.

Created by ElijahPepe (talk). Self-nominated at 00:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/United States documents leak of the Russian invasion of Ukraine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Symbol possible vote.svg ElijahPepe: What FormalDude said regarding maintenance templates. Otherwise, this is new enough and long enough. Hook short enough and sourced. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ unnecessary. I'd like to see the maintenance template addressed before I approve this.--Launchballer 23:47, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 9Edit

Le Corricolo

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A pizza maker in Naples in the 1830s
A pizza maker in Naples in the 1830s

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:06, 9 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Le Corricolo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Gog the Mild (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • The image is not of the article's subject, nor mentioned in or relevant to the hook, and so I think this needs to be a non-image hook.
  • The section of prose in the article about a collaborator needs citing.
  • The hook is cited, but I am unsure that the source referred to is a WP:RS; I am open to persuasion. The source it is cited to does not cover most of what is in the text cited, ie, neither the quote nor the bit about socio-economic analysis. The source doesn't even name Le Corricolo. Crucially, it does not support "it contains one of the first literary accounts of Neapolitan pizza". It says (my translation) "The first mention of tomato on pizza dates back to ..." - a different thing. And the source does not contain "published in 1843" which you use in the hook.
  • The lead is very short - a single sentence, and seems to serve as the first sentence of the main article rather than be " a summary of its most important contents" which "stand[s] on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic" as required by WP:LEAD.
  • The hook is about Neapolitan pizza, which is not mentioned in the article.
  • It is possible that all of this could be cleared up within the deadline, so I am watchlisting this and notifying the nominator. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:55, 9 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hallo @Gog the Mild: and thanks for reviewing! I'll answer step by step:
  • The title of the book is 'Corricolo' (a dialect word incomprehensible even to an Italian), a kind of Neapolitan tilbury, which was the carriage used by Dumas to visit Naples. On commons there are several prints and photos of the corricolo, and the corresponding category starts with the introduction of Dumas' book, so I think there is some relationship. Perhaps we could write neapolitan Corricolo pictured instead of pictured. We could also change the image to a more Dumasian one (on Commons there are a couple of better ones in this sense, with monk, lazarus, scugnizzi and other passengers, exactly as Dumas describes them);
Within the article the connection is clear. A reader of the hook will be baffled as to why a tilbury is pictured. If you want to propose an ALT with a different image, go for it; remember that the image has to be used in the article.
  • Citation added;
  • Here I am perplexed, because apart from the quotation about being one of the first literary accounts (which is implied by reading the whole article), the text says it all. I quote it here below in Italian.

La pizza è finita perfino nelle pagine di Alexandre Dumas (padre), ne Il Corricolo, una serie di racconti su Napoli del 1843. Attraverso la descrizione della pizza, lo scrittore francese offre una breve analisi socio-economica della città: “La pizza è: All’olio; Al lardo; Alla sugna; Al formaggio; Al pomodoro; Ai pesciolini. È il termometro gastronomico del mercato: aumenta o diminuisce il prezzo secondo il corso degli ingredienti suddetti, secondo l’abbondanza o la carestia dell’annata”.

Are you sure you did not click on another link? In any case, I have added three other links, one of which is the Italian Encyclopaedia (surely an RS) where I have also quoted the sentence referring to the testimonies, the second is an academic paper and the third is a blog, but it is interesting because it photographs the original text. Actually, that of Dumas in the Corricolo is the first literary testimony to the existence of Neapolitan pizza: regarding the year, on some sources you find 1835 (the year of his trip to Italy, on some 1841 (the year of the beginning of the publication of the book), , on others 1843 (the year of the end of the publication of the book)
I'm sure. I was referring to the source you provide in this template. Your additional references in the article resolve this.
  • You are right here, the lead is definitively too short, I have expanded it a bit.
Looks good. As the lead is meant to be a summary of the main article, everything in the lead should also be in the article - usually in greater detail. Could you check that this is the case?
  • Neapolitan pizza is mentioned towards the end of the article, before the quote, and as you can see from the references a not insignificant part of the book's notability comes from being one of the first sources on Neapolitan pizza, so this information is important.
Fair enough.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svgThat's all for now, bye. Alex2006 (talk) 13:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To summarise: I am waiting for your confirmation re the lead, you to do a QPQ, and - optionally - for you to propose an ALT with a different image. Or a completely different ALT which is relevant to this image. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hallo @Gog the Mild:, it's me again!
  • Lead is referenced;
  • QPQ is done;
  • About the hook, I changed the picture with one of a pizzajolo in Naples in the 1830s. What do you think about it? If you don't like, I have an idea about another one...
Symbol redirect vote 4.svgBye, Alex2006 (talk) 17:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Looking good. Nice image, needs a US PD tag. Change pizzajolo in the image caption to "pizza maker" - this is the English language Wikipedia. Likewise in the hook above. Nearly there I think. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:00, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, changed (but wouldn't be better "pizza baker"?)! Regarding the image, currently it has a {PD-old-100-1923} Tag. Looks like it is also valid in the US ("This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1928."). Is it OK?
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg bye, Alex2006 (talk) 20:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Yep, adding "-1923" has fixed it.
  • I have taken "pizza maker" out of italics in the caption.
  • Symbol confirmed.svgNow GTG. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg @Alessandro57 and Gog the Mild: I have some concerns about close paraphrasing. The following sentence from the article jumped out at me: The book is an extraordinary blend of literature and of real life, allowing the reader to grasp the city in its bustle and history. This corresponds to the following passage from the source: Le Corricolo, extraordinaire mélange de littérature et de vécu, permet de saisir Naples dans son bouillonnement et son histoire. Google translation: "Le Corricolo, an extraordinary mixture of literature and experience, allows us to grasp Naples in its ferment and its history." Checking further, I found more similarities between the article and the above-linked source, eg. Dumas only stayed in the city for three weeks, but this time was enough for him to capture the essence of the city (compare Dumas ne reste donc que trois semaines dans la ville, mais ce temps lui suffit pour saisir l’essence de la cité). Some other passages, eg. the sentence beginning This explains the book's effectiveness... have been reworded enough to avoid close paraphrasing, but clearly offer opinions that should be attributed to the source rather than stated as fact. I haven't checked out the whole article, these are just examples of some of the issues I found. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Sojourner in the earth and Gog the Mild:, thanks for noticing it! I will check and when necessary paraphrase again the text and notice you when I am finished. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Symbol redirect vote 4.svg@Sojourner in the earth:, please check if now it is better. Sorry for what happened: usually I check the text with Earwig, but sometimes the application "forgets" some sources. :-( Alex2006 (talk) 12:29, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Earwig only detects exact matches, so it doesn't pick up on close paraphrasing at all, let alone from foreign-language sources. I don't believe the changes you made to the passages I mentioned are sufficient; you have replaced some words with synonyms but the sentence structure remains the same. These passages (and others in the article that are too close to the sources) should be completely rewritten in your own words. See WP:CLOP#How to write acceptable content for more advice. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Symbol redirect vote 4.svgIn this case Earwig's usefulness is very limited. Thanks for posting the essay about close paragraphing, now I get it (I hope). However, consider that some statements, such as those on the "sentimental consonance" between Dumas and Naples, are not characteristics of a single source, but are universal. I found them written everywhere, in French and Italian sources, ranging from 1950 to ten years ago. Can you please check again, @Sojourner in the earth:? Thanks! Alex2006 (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I appreciate your efforts to resolve this. Let me first address your comment on the "sentimental consonance". The idea that Dumas's personality was similar to that of the people of Naples, and that this contributed to the success of the book, may be stated in numerous sources (I take your word for it), but it is still an opinion, and as such should not be stated in WP-voice as fact. You've already fixed this particular sentence, but there are others like it in the same paragraph, such as This makes Le Corricolo a valuable and still irreplaceable guide to discovering the city. The relevant policy is WP:Subjective. To expand on the example given in that section, the article on William Shakespeare says "He is regarded as the greatest writer in the English language", but doesn't say he is the greatest writer in the English language, regardless of how many people hold that opinion.
    Tonal problems can be an unintended consequence of close paraphrasing. Your source is a critical review, but you are writing an encyclopedia article; the information must be organized and presented in a different way. With your latest changes to the article, you've again reworded some sentences, but I still don't believe you're fully understanding the problem. For example, the source says that Dumas's technique of shifting from one genre to another gives the reader the impression that they are boarding the corricolo and travelling alongside Dumas in his journey through Naples. This is not a simple fact that can be restated in different words; it is the creatively-expressed opinion of the author. As long as these two ideas are linked together, i.e. that the shifting of genres creates an immersive experience, you are engaging in close paraphrasing. I don't have the expertise to say whether your latest alteration of that passage takes the text far enough away from the source to be non-problematic from a legal point of view; but the text still expresses a non-neutral opinion which should have in-text attribution.
    To be blunt, I don't believe that extensive close paraphrasing can ever be "fixed" except by erasing the article and starting again. It introduces so many problems, and once you start playing the game of rewriting individual sentences in slightly different ways, you're only covering up those problems, not fixing them. However, other DYKers are more tolerant of this, so I suggest you wait for someone else to come along and conduct a new review. I would like to re-iterate, though, for the benefit of the next reviewer, that I only spot-checked a few sentences, and my first comment in this thread should not be taken as an exhaustive survey of the article's close paraphrasing problems. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 14:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Symbol redirect vote 4.svgNo, I have you to thank for explaining to me where the problems are in this article. If so, then the solution is to remove the whole critical part, and leave only the historical part, i.e. the facts. When it was written, where, why, etc. Remove the opinions, even if qualified and unanimous, and leave the facts. Do you agree, @Sojourner in the earth:? That's what I did, I hope that what remains is ok. Alex2006 (talk) 15:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New Reviewer needed. Alex2006 (talk) 12:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 11Edit

United States v. Strong

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Created by Dr vulpes (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 18 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/United States v. Strong; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The hook is difficult to resist, but I am not satisfied with the sources and the amount of coverage I see. It appears to me that the case has not received enough in-depth coverage in reliable sources, i.e. something more reputable than salon.com, to warrant a standalone article. Furthermore, the tone of the article strikes me as too casual for an encyclopedia. I suggest that we first resolve the question of encyclopedic notability. Surtsicna (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Surtsicna, Would these sources address your concerns? I've added them to the article, they might be a bit hard to access I had to use the wikipedia library. Russell, Eric (26 Jul 2013) "After two years in courts, bathroom-mess case ends". Portland Press Herald.; Shepherd, Chuck (2013-09-12). "New of the Weird: Fine Points of the Law". Sun-News.; 1st Circuit affirms conviction of man who leaves nasty surprise in court bathroom". Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly. 2013-08-15. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 01:01, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I am not sure, Dr vulpes. I can tell that you invested a considerable effort into the article. I would like there to be a proper discussion to get more opinions, if that is alright. Surtsicna (talk) 17:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Surtsicna, no worries that's 100% a-ok with me. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 17:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg nomination doesn't seem to need imminent closure – Surtsicna, DYK usually defers to AfD on questions of notability. If you'd like to get an answer on that, I'd suggest AfDing the article and returning here. me and my big mouth :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment Article is out of AfD. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 04:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment. While the article survived AFD, it was only "no consensus". And furthermore, this article hook seems to skirt the line of 4a on "articles that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided" (I presume Mr. Strong is still alive). At least with stuff like "normal" crimes, there's also the victim side, but... meh. It's not really agreeed on how strong "unduly" is, but I'd weakly suggest giving this one a skip on DYK on 4a grounds. SnowFire (talk) 23:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    SnowFire, just so we're all clear the only reason I even worked on this article is that it was an appeal AND has been cited in other cases. If this was just a case with a man pooping his pants it would be super unethical to create the article about it, but two appeals later (Strong appealed to the Supreme Court) and some legal citations later I didn't feel that this was inappropriate and that's the only reason I nominated this for DYK. I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, just I understand that when we deal with living people we need to be careful and considerate. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 08:06, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I respect that this is a good faith effort, of course. I still feel the article ends up reading somewhat lurid. Like I said, it's a weak objection, but I feel it's still an issue (and an "issue" is not quite the same as "problem", just, not every article that is keepable on Wikipedia is necessarily DYK-certified).
    While we're here - the "legal analysis" section seems to be primary sourced currently. Are there any sources that directly connect the Strakoff case with the Strong case? Both the current citations are before 2010. (I'm not saying delete it, because it does seem to potentially be relevant, but it would be nice to have some other source connect these cases.) SnowFire (talk) 00:11, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2023 Anheuser-Busch boycott

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Created by Knightoftheswords281 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Anheuser-Busch boycott; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Passerby comment (this is not a review, others should still feel free to grab this as a review). Given that there's plenty of sources on this topic and that it's pretty controversial, I'd suggest removing Newsweek as a reference from the article and from any proposed hooks without a truly powerful justification for why any specific Newsweek story is reliable. See WP:NEWSWEEK, that publication has gone downhill since 2013 or so and just makes stuff up these days, and is considered a suspicious-if-not-entirely-deprecated source. While here, I'd check the sources against WP:RSP in general - WP:FORBESCON suggests that using the hook referenced to a Forbes contributor is also not great and should be replaced if possible, unless there's an independent case to be made that the specific author is reliable. SnowFire (talk) 03:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg an active merge discussion and three maintenance tags are all disqualifying – it'll need to come off before a review. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:52, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Any updates? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:19, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment - all tags on article have been removed @theleekycauldron. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 20:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Note We need to avoid redirects from the Main Page as per WP:MPNOREDIRECT. [[Bud Light]] is a redirect and that needs fixing before this gets promoted (eventually). Schwede66 04:28, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Valentina Bodrug-Lungu

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Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 20:05, 12 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Valentina Bodrug-Lungu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Symbol delete vote.svg Hold up. What is this person's claim to notability as per Wikipedia:Notability (people), let alone Wikipedia:Notability (academics)? Highest academic rank is as an associate professor, the coverage in the press seems to be sparse, and much of the article is based on a summary on her opinions on this and that topic, or mentioning some small organizations she founded and leads. Not one award, not one piece of evidence about her significance in the field(s) she covers, not one single position as editor of a journal or leader of an academic body. Until and unless some of these criteria are shown to apply the bio should not be included on DYK, and should in fact be deleted as promotional cruft. Dahn (talk) 09:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Hello Dahn, thanks for adding your point of view. It was her foundation of Gender Centru and her work as a pioneer of gender studies in Moldova that means inclusion here is appropriate. I've added a three further sources, which have expanded the article somewhat. I would encourage you to think holistically about the field of gender studies - this article was written as part of an Women in Red theme (I'll cross-post this discussion here) - since the discipline itself is under-research and under-represented. I see you're a Romanian speaker - so I wonder if you have access to further sources, particularly scholarly reviews, that could help expand the article? Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 07:15, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Lajmmoore Yes, please let's not go down the loaded-language path of "thanks for adding your point of view" when I am quoting wikipedia policies. Do go over them and cite me the part that would make Bodrug-Lungu notable for this project: as compared to those criteria, and not some others we invent especially for her, how is she notable? (For instance, is she called a "pioneer of gender studies" by a leading newspaper, or is you calling her that, and asking us to comply with your claim?) Yes, I do speak Romanian, and yes, I have to say she is not notable even at that -- there are no hidden inaccessible sources that make her more notable than she currently seems; not that the burden of proving she is notable would fall on me -- it falls on you, as the author. Regards, Dahn (talk) 07:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • In the entry, a UN document references the claim that she pioneered gender studies in Moldova. Innisfree987 (talk) 10:22, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The "document" (indeed, Biruitorul is correct to call it a press release -- on which see WP:PSTS) says that she created a Masters' course, which is not the same thing as her scholarship being pioneering of anything. Dahn (talk) 17:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • "Ms. Bodrug-Lungu built the foundation for gender education in Moldova". Innisfree987 (talk) 17:58, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Says a capsule biography leading into a press release. This is puffery, not scholarship or objectivity. — Biruitorul Talk 18:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Not just puffery, but note how that quote was not given in full: "Ms. Bodrug-Lungu built the foundation for gender education in Moldova through the creation of the Masters’ course ‘Therapy for Family Relationships’ at Moldova State University." This is not a comment on her scholarship, but on her administrative functions. Dahn (talk) 03:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You’re entitled to your opinion that teaching is an unimportant contribution to the field but the source takes a different view. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You're entitled to your opinion that it does, but wikipedia guidelines are quite clear that they it isn't important enough to warrant biographical articles. Dahn (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You’ve misread my view, and, I believe, WP:NPROF. Both the policy and I take the view that significant contributions are decided by sources, not personal opinions of what kinds of scholarly contributions count. Innisfree987 (talk) 13:34, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Significant contributions are decided by sources independent of the subject, and which refer to scholarship. If they do not refer to scholarship, then it is you inferring the claim that they still should be taken into account. If you want to cite criterion 7 of WP:PROF, you will need to show sources (many, independent, and themselves of importance) explicitly sating why she is significant: "she is the leading expert in the field of" -- that sort of statement. Dahn (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Incidentally, "Gender Centru" (a name that somehow manages to be ungrammatical in two languages) is a minuscule NGO, precisely as I mentioned; it has no virtually no coverage in the media, a website that is under construction, and seems mainly a one-person operation by Bodrug-Lungu. This is not an issue of gender bias -- it's an issue of claiming Bodrug-Lungu should have a puff-piece on wikipedia because there supposedly is a gender bias (which she herself makes a profession out of pointing out, incidentally). Dahn (talk) 07:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • There is frequently a tendency to try to have articles about academics deleted if they are not about full professors. In this case, whatever Dahn maintains about lack of media coverage, the fact that the UN and the Council of Europe have referred to Bodrug-Lungu and/or to Gender Centru in multiple articles makes her notable. We should therefore proceed with the DYK as planned. (I had no difficulty in finding coverage of Bodrug-Lungu in the Moldovan media [1], [2]).--Ipigott (talk) 11:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • But the level of coverage she’s received in the Moldovan media is trivial. In the first source, she is quoted as insisting on a gender quota for the government. In the second, she recites some platitudes. Neither source adds to any claim of notability. Which of her publications has made a scholarly impact? What academic prizes has she received? What discoveries has she made? Or are we reducing our notability standards on a whim?
  • Moving on, simply invoking “the UN” does not exclude those sources from close scrutiny. All this does is attest she once appeared on a panel; surely not all panelists are notable, UN or not. This is a press release, of the type that agency puts out by the dozens.
  • There is still no objective evidence of WP:PROF or any other notability criterion being met. I too object to promotion. — Biruitorul Talk 12:05, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Was the AFD the only thing holding this back or are there still other issues? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:15, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Narutolovehinata5 Re-reading the discussion above, it seems like notability was the primary issue, hence the AfD nomination. However I can't speak for others in the discussion above, who may have further concerns to share. Lajmmoore (talk) 11:58, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 14Edit

University College London

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Improved to Good Article status by Robminchin (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/University College London; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Non-reviewing comment: the above seem pretty boring. Why not:
Alt2 "...that the kidnapping of Phineas, the mascot of University College London, sparked a conflict that involved rotten apples, castration, and the embalmed head of Jeremy Bentham?"
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  • Alt3 "...that the rivalries of students at the University College London have led to pitched battles with other schools involving rotten apples, castration, and the embalmed head of Jeremy Bentham?
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Question?
  • Interesting: Red XN - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The new GA article nomination could use a better hook, and perhaps a picture. --evrik (talk) 02:31, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Falaki Shirvani

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Improved to Good Article status by HistoryofIran (talk) and Amitchell125 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 19:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Falaki Shirvani; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 15Edit

Kathryn Bryce

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5x expanded by Bahnfrend (talk). Self-nominated at 14:35, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kathryn Bryce; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Green tickY
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - Earwig turned up five results with >10% similarity (84.3, 51.9, 31.0, 13.0, and 12.3), and while most of them are quotes (which may require an explanation of relevance or trimming per WP:COPYQUOTE; there are nine quote boxes, and one of the two-paragraph boxes are particularly long), I found a few close paraphrases (for example, compare When Bryce first moved south to England to attend university at Loughborough in 2017, Warwickshire's Division One county team captain Marie Kelly was also studying there in the article with Bryce first moved south to England in 2017 to attend university at Loughborough where Warwickshire captain Marie Kelly was also studying in the attached source) which should be resummarized, if possible (see WP:LIMITED).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - I'm not really a cricket fan, so I recommend linking partnership. Also, "Under 17s" is redundantly said twice, so I recommend mentioning just the Under-17 level, namely:
ALT1: ... that at Under-17 level, cricketing sisters Kathryn and Sarah Bryce combined in an unbroken partnership of 336 for Scotland against Lincolnshire?

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Red XN - None yet
Overall: Symbol question.svg Expanded starting 11 April, four days before nom. Expanded almost eightfold from 375 to 2975 words between 8 and 15 April, and currently at 3293 (not counting the {{quote}} boxes given the limitations of WP:PROSESIZE) as of now. I noticed that you wanted to add another article to this nom, which would require you to add a second QPQ. Please ping me if you've added article 2, if you've addressed the issues with article 1, and if you've done both QPQs. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bahnfrend: Given your subsequent edits, just need these changes and you're good to go for the "plagiarismfree" part:
  1. Change "over the last couple of years" to "in the past few years"
  2. Change "develop her cricket full-time in a high-performance programme, albeit as an unpaid student, and only during the academic year" to "improve her cricketing skills full-time in a high-performance programme, where she would participate as an unpaid student during the academic year".
I'll still wait for you to finish the promised Sarah Bryce expansion and to do the two QPQs if possible. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Miraclepine: Thanks for your helpful comments; I had overlooked checking the article with Earwig before nominating it. In Wikipedia bios, I like to include quotes, so that the subject speaks to the reader in her (or his) own voice, and to give the reader the benefit of verbatim comments by others. However, I accept that the original quotes I added to this article needed some trimming, which I have done. I will complete the upgrade of the other article, and the two QPQs, some time in the next week or so. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bahnfrend: QPQ1 is done, but given your plans for the Sarah Bryce expansion, I'll wait until that and QPQ2 are done. Ping me if you do so. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:31, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Miraclepine: I'm now working on Sarah Bryce, but the work is proceeding more slowly than I'd expected, partly because the statistics on women's cricket at ESPNcricinfo were down for some time. I understand that they are back up again now. I will nominate for DYK within a week of my completing of the upgrade. Bahnfrend (talk) 14:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bahnfrend: It's been three weeks, and the Sarah article hasn't been nominated. And considering the article's expansion within the maximum week (8182 -> 9022) doesn't meet the 5x criteria and it's not a GA or a recent creation, you won't need to do a second QPQ. In the meantime I'll approve ALT0 and wait for a second reviewer to approve ALT1. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Miraclepine: The main problem was that most of the statistics were offline for several weeks, including after my last post. They're now back online again, but I've been in hospital in the last week or so and therefore progress has been impaired for another reason. Additionally, the pre-upgrade version of the Sarah Bryce bio was already of substantial length, and I'm not sure I would ever have been able to lengthen it 5 x. Anyway, if you allow me a few more days, I'll complete the upgrade, and then we can go ahead and DYK her sister's bio while also emboldening the link to this one. Bahnfrend (talk) 05:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bahnfrend: Based on the prose size from one week ago, (9022 B) you'd have to expand Sarah Bryce to 45110 B to make it eligible through the 5x expand process. Per WP:DYKCRIT 1, I'd say a GA nom is the most realistic route. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Still, you have an option to send the Kathryn article to DYK without Sarah. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:12, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Miraclepine: I agree. The Sarah article was just too long to begin with. I have now finished expanding it, so you can send the Kathryn article to DYK. I only ask that the link to the Sarah article in the hook be emboldened as well (ie "... that at Under-17 level, cricketing sisters Kathryn and Sarah Bryce combined in an unbroken partnership of 336 for Scotland against Lincolnshire?"), given that both articles have recently been expanded, and that it's inappropriate to treat the sisters differently, even though only one of the articles is eligible for DYK. Bahnfrend (talk) 15:18, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bahnfrend: I understand you want both sisters bolded, but based on this table (can't put it here due to a glitch with {{DYKsubpage}}, the Sarah Bryce article unfortunately doesn't meet the 5x expansion criteria and is way older than a week, so if you would like the article bolded, the only option WP:DYKCRIT#1 permit is to improve and nominate it for GA status. But if you want to run the nomination with just Kathryn bolded, I have no objections. Would you like to nom the article for GA, or are you fine with the hook being run without the article bolded? ミラP@Miraclepine 18:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Miraclepine: I've never nominated any article for GA. I'm thinking that maybe I should nominate both articles. Both sisters will probably be playing for Scotland's senior team at a tournament in the Netherlands beginning on 10 July, so perhaps we could aim to publish the DYK on that day. (Scotland will also be playing in another tournament in Spain in September.) What do you think? Bahnfrend (talk) 13:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bahnfrend: I agree that 10 July is a fitting day for the hook. And upon some reflection here, and given not just all the work on the almost-tenfold expansion being after the nom was started, but also the fact that it has been slow due in part to the stat sites being offline and to you spending some hospital time, I suppose I can fit in an WP:IAR exemption for the Sarah article, but I would like to see what others think about my idea. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Miraclepine: Sounds like a good idea to me. I will now proceed to upgrade another women's cricket bio, about Jan Brittin, one of the greatest ever English Test players, so that it can be DYK for 22 June, the first day of the forthcoming Women's Ashes series. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:52, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Exometeorology

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Artist's impression of HD 189733 b, an exoplanet with a wide range of observed exometeorological conditions.
Artist's impression of HD 189733 b, an exoplanet with a wide range of observed exometeorological conditions.
  • ... that meteorological phenomena, such as eastward winds blowing at speeds of 2 km/s (1.2 mi/s) around HD 189733 b (pictured), have recently been observed in exoplanet atmospheres? Source: Louden, Tom; Wheatley, Peter J. (25 November 2015). "SPATIALLY RESOLVED EASTWARD WINDS AND ROTATION OF HD 189733b". The Astrophysical Journal. 814 (2): L24. doi:10.1088/2041-8205/814/2/L24.
    • ALT1: ... that meteorological phenomena have recently been observed in exoplanet atmospheres? Source: Louden, Tom; Wheatley, Peter J. (25 November 2015). "SPATIALLY RESOLVED EASTWARD WINDS AND ROTATION OF HD 189733b". The Astrophysical Journal. 814 (2): L24. doi:10.1088/2041-8205/814/2/L24.
    • ALT2: ... that meteorological phenomena, such as wind speeds of 2 km/s (1.2 mi/s) around HD 189733 b (pictured), have recently been observed in exoplanet atmospheres? Source: Louden, Tom; Wheatley, Peter J. (25 November 2015). "SPATIALLY RESOLVED EASTWARD WINDS AND ROTATION OF HD 189733b". The Astrophysical Journal. 814 (2): L24. doi:10.1088/2041-8205/814/2/L24.
    • Reviewed: [[]]
    • Comment: Thank you for reviewing this nomination!

5x expanded by Varmint256 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:11, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Exometeorology; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Extremely intersting hook. Article and hook all meet criteria. Would say it could also run in a more concise ALT1: ... that meteorological phenomena have recently been observed in exoplanet atmospheres? I only say this because this version might be even more interesting to general readers, but ALT0 is good to go, as is, already. QPQ just needs to be done and then it'll be greenlit. Could even run with this image perhaps? Soulbust (talk) 01:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Soulbust, thank you for the review; it's great to hear that you enjoyed the hook! Thanks for suggesting an alt hook and image as well. I'll add your suggested hook to the nomination, but I'd still like to include some facts in the hook instead of trimming them all out. How about ALT2: ... that meteorological phenomena, such as wind speeds of 2 km/s (1.2 mi/s) around HD 189733 b (pictured), have recently been observed in exoplanet atmospheres? I guess that one is a tad more concise while still including the interesting fact. As for the picture, I'll add that to the nomination as well, but I need to add it to the article first. For QPQ, this is actually my first nomination for DYK (and one of my first article edits in general); I would still be happy to review another nomination to help out! Again, thanks for the review, and please let me know if I need to fulfill any other requirements! Varmint256 (talk) 03:50, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Varmint256: Sounds good! Didn't realize it was your first nom, so definitely good to go for the DYK section since QPQ can be waived here. The ALT0 or ALT2 both work. I would prefer ALT2 since it goes with the image, but all of these hooks work and I'll leave that up to the hook's promoter. Good job on this and the article! Soulbust (talk) 04:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just edited the nomination according to your suggestions. Thanks again for the suggestions and approval, excited to see if it'll show up in DYK soon! Varmint256 (talk) 05:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg @Varmint256 and Soulbust: I have added the [citation needed] tags to the article. Bruxton (talk) 19:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bruxton: Thank you for reviewing the article and nomination as well! I was going to address your concern, but I haven't yet seen any edits adding any citation needed tags to statements in the article. What statements/segments seem problematic? Varmint256 (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nevermind, just saw your edit. I'll get to those citations soon. Varmint256 (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just wanted to update; the past week has been busy for me, but I'm still working to get out those citations. Sorry for the delay. Varmint256 (talk) 21:14, 24 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Varmint256: any progress? BorgQueen (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BorgQueen:@Bruxton: Finally was able to cite most of the statements and remove others, but there was one statement that I'm not exactly sure how to cite - the last sentence in the 3rd paragraph. By the definition of exometeorology, an exoplanet needs an atmosphere in the first place to have time-varying conditions in that atmosphere. However, I have not been able to find any studies that state that or contradict that in a peer-reviewed context. Thus, I wanted to ask you Bruxton - why did you add the citation needed tag to that sentence? Was there anything specific you hoped I could find to support that statement? Also, to everyone who reviewed my nomination, thanks for being patient. Is it still eligible for DYK if I can get all the citation needed tags taken care of? Varmint256 (talk) 05:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I liked this nomination and it is a great image, but we cannot have un-cited claims WP:DYKSG#D2 and the nominator has had 1.5 months to correct the issues. If the sentences air circulation and weather patterns can only exist and redistribute a planet's heat if that planet has an atmosphere. Thus, an exoplanet's exometeorology depends on whether it has an atmosphere at all. cannot be cited it is an unresolved issue and the nomination remains stuck. Bruxton (talk) 14:22, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Got it. Thanks for the clarification! Will continue searching for citations or remove the statements if necessary. Varmint256 (talk) 00:59, 2 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So we can’t say an atmospheric function on earth applies to other planets. That sentence might need to be removed then. At some point if a source can’t be found and the sentence isn’t removed this will fail. 75.99.8.58 (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 16Edit

David Baron (Messianic leader)

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A photograph of the Jewish-Christian convert David Baron
A photograph of the Jewish-Christian convert David Baron
  • ... that the Hebrew-Christian evangelist David Baron travelled to at least nine countries during his missonary journeys? Source: Fromow, George (1943). David Baron and the Hebrew Christian Testimony to Israel. London: Hebrew Christian Testimony to Israel.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: David Baron is a fascinating figure. Though often labelled a Messianic Jew he rejected that label and sought to retain Jewish distinctiveness from non-Jewish Christianity. Better described as Jewish or Hebrew Christian, he was very well-travelled and a prolific evangelist.

It is a true shame that few people know about him. 5x expanded by ThePatristicsFan (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 23 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/David Baron (Messianic leader); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 18Edit

Leonard Abrams

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  • ... that Leonard Abrams was the founder of the East Village Eye, an arts and culture magazine which in 1982 is believed to have been the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop? Source: "Despite its downtown focus, the Eye also cast a glance uptown and beyond to chronicle the world of hip-hop as it hurtled toward the mainstream. It ran early feature articles about Afrika Bambaataa, Run-DMC and the graffiti artist Fab 5 Freddy.
    Indeed, Mr. Abrams and others associated with the Eye long claimed that it was the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop, with a parenthetical in a January 1982 interview with Mr. Bambaataa by the writer Michael Holman that summarized the term as “the all-inclusive tag for the rapping, breaking, graffiti-writing, crew-fashion-wearing street subculture.”"

Created by Thriley (talk) and Wil540 art (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 23:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leonard Abrams; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • I will take this review:

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Created 9 days before, which is pushing the discretionary envelope a bit (8-10 days are sometimes still possible). There are also some key phrases from the NYT article, leading to an Earwig hit of 30.6%, albeit one of those is from a quote and is appropriate, and two others can be addressed (and the actual similarities are a fraction of the NYT article total). The hook needs some reworking, as right now it could be misread around the 1982. So with a little work, this can be ready, subject to a second opinion and / or an explanation on the delayed submission. SeoR (talk) 14:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your review. I have fixed the issues with the close paraphrasing. Thriley (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT1 "that Leonard Abrams was the founder of the arts and culture magazine East Village Eye which in 1982 is believed to have been the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop?" Thriley (talk) 21:44, 2 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Articles created/expanded on April 19Edit

Battle of New Carthage

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  • ... that after a failed Roman assault at the Battle of New Carthage, the romans launched a second assault in the afternoon, surprising the Carthaginian army? Source: Goldsworthy, Adrian (2004) [2003]. In the Name of Rome: The Men Who Won the Roman Empire. London: Phoenix. ISBN 978-0-7538-1789-6. Page 62-63 , Goldsworthy, Adrian (2006) [2000]. The Fall of Carthage: The Punic Wars 265–146 BC. London: Phoenix. ISBN 978-0-304-36642-2. Page 274 , Lowe, Benedict J (2000). "Polybius 10.10.12 and the Existence of Salt-Flats at Carthago Nova". Phoenix. Classical Association of Canada. 54 (1/2 (Spring - Summer)): 39–52. doi:10.2307/1089089. JSTOR 1089089. page 42
    • ALT1: ... that the martial booty seized by the Romans after the Battle of New Carthage, containing 63 merchant ships, numerous catapults, large amounts of weapons, and more, has been described as "colossal"? Source: Hoyos, Dexter (2003). Hannibal's Dynasty: Power and Politics in the Western Mediterranean, 247–183 BC. London: Routledge. ISBN 978-0-203-41782-9. Page 144 , Bagnall, Nigel (1999). The Punic Wars: Rome, Carthage and the Struggle for the Mediterranean. London: Pimlico. ISBN 978-0-7126-6608-4. Page 209
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/German submarine U-1206

Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk) and Ifly6 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 18:51, 24 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Battle of New Carthage; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • I would prefer the second element rather than the former. J H Richardson CQ 68 (2018) 458ff raises pretty reasonable doubts – largely about physical impossibility – as to why we shouldn't entirely believe the ancient stories of the city's capture. Ifly6 (talk) 19:03, 24 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Just in case there is trouble regarding this down the road, can I note that I was unaware of this article's nomination for DYK until just now, three days after the event. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:13, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 20Edit

2023 Canadian federal worker strike

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PSAC strikers outside of Tunney's Pasture in Ottawa, Ontario
PSAC strikers outside of Tunney's Pasture in Ottawa, Ontario

Created by Knightoftheswords281 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:14, 25 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Canadian federal worker strike; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Eucalyptus wandoo

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Improved to Good Article status by Hughesdarren (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 19:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Eucalyptus wandoo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

So added in ALT2. gobonobo + c 14:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol question.svg Detailed article about the tree and its use, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I sugest you use an image, perhaps of the woodlands. Without it, I'm afraid ALT1 would need to say that it is a tree, and ALT2 is more or less an explanation of the name. For people too lazy to look up Noongar, it also hangs in the air location-wise, or should we get it from Eucalyptus? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What do you think, Onegreatjoke? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: I guess I could use File:Eucalyptus wandoo gnangarra.JPG or just say "... that the Noongar used the Eucalyptus wandoo tree as a medicine and ointment?" Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:19, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good idea, Onegreatjoke, - can you please make that a workable ALT, with Mainpage image formatted ready for promotion? - I saw two others of your nominations with questions open, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 6 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

David Webber (basketball)

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Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 11:46, 22 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/David Webber (basketball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]



Articles created/expanded on April 21Edit

Jordan Stephens

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Stephens at V Festival in 2012
Stephens at V Festival in 2012

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 12:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jordan Stephens; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Comment The hook fails to have worldwide appeal, since most of us have no clue as to who Boulting was. Dahn (talk) 18:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I knew there was one more QPQ I had to do, and I'll do that tomorrow. As for the hook:
ALT1: ... that Rizzle Kicks musician Jordan Stephens is the grandson of Brighton Rock director John Boulting?--Launchballer 23:45, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Template:Did you know nominations/Arrest of Ulysses S. Grant--Launchballer 13:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not really sure if that hook is any better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT2 ... that Jordan Stephens confirmed his relationship with Jade Thirlwall after the pair were spotted at a Black Trans Lives Matter rally in London?--Launchballer 07:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg The image is licensed 2.0 from Flickr, but we need to crop the image to remove "@Sean Reynolds Photography" per WP:WATERMARK. Note: I have tagged the images {{imagewatermark}} It would be promotional for us to advertise the photographer on the main page. We should also say something about the person or talents rather than ALT0 and ALT1 which connect the person to someone else. The relationship is somewhat interesting so I will leave it up to a prep builder - it checks out and is cited. The article is new and long enough and neutral. The QPQ is done and the article has the correct inline citations. I will propose another ALT and cross off the two rejected hooks.
  • ALT3: … that Jordan Stephens has released solo music under his own name and the pseudonyms "J Steezy", "Rizzle", "Wildhood", "Gnarly Ventura", and "Al, the Native"? source: soccerbible] not sure it is a great source but the hook appears in the lead and body of the article. Bruxton (talk) 15:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 22Edit

Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars (2002 video game)

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Created by Cukie Gherkin (talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars (2002 video game); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • The target article needs to be linked and in bold font. Schwede66 19:20, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment. This is not a full review, but there are some issues with the hook. First off, if you're using a YouTube video of non-trivial length, it is respectful of others' time to point out the specific spot to check. Are you citing the comments from 7:55 - 8:30 or so? Because if so, I'd argue the hook is somewhat misrepresenting what Warriner said there. He said it was one of his proudest achievements, yes, but he clarifies that it was because it was essentially a duo project. Shorn of context in the hook, however, one would presume that his pride is due to it being one of his best creations, rather than "much done with few people." This changes the tone. And more generally... I'm not sold the hook suggestion is all that interesting anyway. "Did you know a programmer who worked hard says their own work is great" isn't really very unique or interesting, it's basically expected that they'll like their own works. (Not to mention that "one of" really defangs the impact - Warriner seems like a cool guy, but he's not THAT famous, and this is an off-the-cuff remark. Lots of works can be "one of" the best.) Any other hook ideas? SnowFire (talk) 00:14, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    All great points. I'll ponder on a more interesting hook. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:21, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @SnowFire: Is this better? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It is better, but maybe more alts would still be good. I don't think you need the "The" capitalized and part of the link. I'd also question the relevance of "mad suggestion" referenced to a press release - it's a little promotional and also still uninteresting (what was so mad about it? To a general audience, that is. I presume the answer is really "the GBA was considered underpowered" for this, but I doubt many main page viewers would catch on.). And is "designers" really the best word? I'd suggest something more like this, at least if keeping the same basic fact:
  • ALT1 ... that development of the Game Boy Advance version of Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars was largely made by just two people?Source: https://www.eurogamer.net/article-30537 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh_uECxlC9M (starting at 7:55)
    This might be still considered too uninteresting, though. I'll defer this to the DYK reviewer, just throwing an idea out there. SnowFire (talk) 17:26, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Hmm, I dunno... maybe I should just withdraw the nomination. It's a game that's practically most well-known for its quaintness, which itself doesn't lend itself to having an interesting DYK aspect. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 19:48, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Speaking as a non-reviewer, I did find it interesting that a largely two-person team ported a game to the GBA (small indie team-sized teams weren't so common back then), but maybe it's just because I have an interest in video games, so I'm probably not the most impartial person to give an opinion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's a valid point, though yeah, non-gamers may not appreciate why that's an interesting point. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:13, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 23Edit

David Fletcher (baseball)

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Improved to Good Article status by Sewageboy (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 23:29, 29 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/David Fletcher (baseball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Will review. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:23, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Symbol possible vote.svg Newness criteria met, promoted to GA within 7 days of nomination. Article is long enough. Suggestion to change "MLB" to "Major League Baseball". Both as "MLB" and "Major League Baseball", this is under the 200 character hook limit. "Fletcher and his wife, Kierra, married in January 2019 and reside in Orange County, California." The wife's name should be removed per WP:BLPNAME. Fletcher is acclaimed by fans and baseball media alike for his defensive abilities in the middle infield. this requires more than one citation to prove "baseball media alike" and the word "fans" isn't in the cited article at all. Thus, NPOV violation. Article has sufficient inline citations. No image in hook so OK there. QPQ done. Hook is interesting to a broad audience once MLB is changed to "Major League Baseball". Similar to Angels Hall of Famer Vladimir Guerrero, that's nowhere in the citation. Hook is neutral and doesn't focus unduly on negative aspects of living people. First source to ESPN is a dead link and needs to be re-cited. Thus, the hook isn't cited in the article at current. Free from close paraphrasing, as copying entity copied us. Therapyisgood (talk) 01:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Andrius Domaševičius

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Created by KrivisKrivaitis (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Andrius Domaševičius; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - inline citation needed
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - hook update needed
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg @KrivisKrivaitis: Article looks good. Though, the article states that he was one of the founders of the party and not The founder, so the hook should be updated for that. Also, the hooks need to be cited with inline citations. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:31, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: Hi, I recently suggested user @KrivisKrivaitis: to participate in the DYK procedure as I noticed that he regularly create new content of high quality, but he is still inexperienced in this. I added the reference template to the article where it is necessary to support this hook (my edit) and here is a quote from the Lithuanian reference which support this hook: "1910 m. įkūrė privačią kliniką ir ginekologinę ligoninę, kurioje neturtingos moterys buvo gydomos nemokamai." (English: In 1910, he established a private clinic and gynecologists' hospital where poor women were treated free of charge; link to the reference). I cannot modify the hook myself, but it can be easily changed by KrivisKrivaitis or an administrator who will add it to the main page (that Domaševičius was one of the founders of the party). I think everything else is perfect here. -- Pofka (talk) 10:30, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja

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Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 17:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg New enough and long enough. @FuzzyMagma: QPQ pending. Hooks seem fine though I had to copyedit. Earwig comes back fairly high but mostly for the names of organizations, some of which are quite long ( Department of African, African American and Diaspora Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill). These issues need to be resolved.
    • "This activism led to his expulsion from high school." ends a paragraph and is not backed by a citation.
    • Consider adding "allegedly" to ALT0. It might be more accurate.
  • Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
sentenced that was contested is now removed. Fixed most long names that tripped Earwig. Allegedly added to hook (see below)
ALT2: ... that Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja alleged that Rwanda stole chimpanzees from the Democratic Republic of the Congo? FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: QPQ done FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:11, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 24Edit

Portillo Cáceres v Paraguay

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Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self-nominated at 22:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Portillo Cáceres v Paraguay; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • This review is for ALT1 which is more compelling IMO.
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Interesting article, good quality and writing! The Earwig results are too high for 3 sources. I understand that most of them are quotes, but there are a bit too many quotes as per MOS:QUOTE and some would be better if rewritten. Some close paraphrases as well. Otherwise all good. -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 25Edit

715 Harrison

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Moved to mainspace by InvadingInvader (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/715 Harrison; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 26Edit

Christopher Lowrey

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Christopher Lowrey; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg While the article meets DYK requirements and a QPQ has been provided, the hook as currently written is rather bland and requires specialist knowledge to really get it. If I were you, I'd probably focus more on the Metropolitan Opera angle as that's one that's more well-known and probably more familiar among non-specialists, as basically saying "performer did his job at a particular festival" isn't really something that would interest someone who already isn't interested in the topic. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:05, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I am sorry but don't understand. The Met is the destination of the hook, no? We can add a year to the Met performance, and can add that it was a live broadcast. Any world premiere is noteworthy, I think, even if you don't know Glyndebourne, but for others it's one of the most notable opera festivals, which was mentioned in hooks before (Liselotte Hammes for example, Marina de Gabaráin for another, - the greatest singers appear there, many having made their career from there). Gabaráin's lead (article not by me) says: "Marina de Gabaráin ... was a Spanish mezzo-soprano. Her international career began at Glyndebourne in 1952, where she appeared in Rossini's La Cenerentola as Angelina (Cinderella), which became her signature role."
    Right now we have a hook on the Main page about a singer saying more or less only that she sang well but was fat. Can we for a change inform, about a career beginning in Glyndebourne and leading via Australia to the Met? - If that's too long, we can skip Australia, but I think that it's particularly interesting as the composer is from there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's probably an overestimation here about how much broad audiences would understand about such things or find it interesting. It's one of the DYK criterion that a hook needs to be interesting even to those with no specialist knowledge, and as currently written, the hook doesn't meet that. That's not to say that the article can't meet that criterion and like I said I think a hook focused specifically on the Met might solve my concerns. But remember this: we write the hooks for broad audiences, even those who don't care about opera and classical music. We don't write hooks for the nominator. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We will probably disagree. Every world premiere is a distinct interesting fact, and 2017 is still rather recent news. ... that countertenor Christopher Lowrey took part in the world premiere of Brett Dean's Hamlet? - that would be an acceptable hook. Everything else is extra, and provides context. I find it astonishing, and worth telling the audience also ...
  • ... that this piece by an Australian composer (with a recognizable title) was premiered in England at all
  • ... that it was premiered at the Glyndebourne Festival which to know doesn't hurt
  • ... that this young man made the typical start for a world career, being noticed in Glyndebourne
  • ... that a production travels from Glyndebourne to Australia and the Met (I didn't know that!)
To focus on the Met would be undue weight because there he only performed minor roles. Why not supply e bit of extra information? - Btw, the "fat singer" hook was modified, and I felt understood - which feels good! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Such a hook is too reliant on specialist information, and we try as much as possible to avoid that. It may appeal to you but it does not appeal to non-opera fans, and Wikipedia isn't the Operapedia. You even admit in the above that he "made the typical start for a world career", which means his circumstances aren't even unusual. What makes him any different from the many other international opera artists that got their big break at Glyndebourne and performed internationally elsewhere? I'm sure Lowrey is a talented man and deserves to reach where he got to be, but this hook appeals to a very small niche, which goes against the DYK criteria. What I mean to say is: it proves his talent, but it doesn't make him atypical from any other person who were noticed at Glyndebourne and performed in a country different from their own. It's no different from a hook about how Carrie Underwood was discovered when she won American Idol and has since performed outside the United States. It shows Underwood is talented, but it doesn't make Underwood different from the many other American singers who have performed outside America. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:34, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT1: ... that countertenor Christopher Lowrey took part in the world premiere of Brett Dean's Hamlet?
What in my claim that this is an acceptable hook did you not understand? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think the hook would make much sense to people who don't know Lowrey or Dean. Sure, Hamlet is a recognizable name, but the hook doesn't make it clear how Lowrey being in this particular world premiere is any different from any other actor who was also in said premiere, or how this version of Hamlet is any more special than the many other versions of Hamlet to make Lowrey's participation intriguing by itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I didn't mean the hook to run without context, but it says a lot about the singer:
  • He is a countertenor.
  • He is ready to take part in a new piece.
  • He was ready to leave home.
I will never understand why people would have to know Dean when there is a link. Those interested in new composers can click, and the others can skip the hook anyway. Trying to meet what everybody knows already is for me the exact opposite of "Did you now ...? - expecting a no for an answer, and supplying as much unknown stuff as possible. There's a world of opera to explore beyond the ten composers and 50 operas that "everybody" should know, and for some, even countertenor might be new. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To serve the wish to say something about him that is unique:
ALT2: ... that when countertenor Christopher Lowrey appeared at the Oper Frankfurt for the first time, as Medoro in Handel's Orlando in 2023, he was the only guest singer?
If you really like that better I can find a ref. However, a countertenor in contemporary music is much more unusual, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suppose that's a better option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I added the ref. The line in question translates to "Medoro is countertenor Christopher Lowrey, house debutant and the only guest in the vocal quintet". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Master of Magic (2022 video game)

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 11:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Master of Magic (2022 video game); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new and long enough. Article is neutral, reliably sourced, and only pings on Earwigs for a properly attributed quote. QPQ has been completed. I'm not crazy about the hook; calling the original a "classic" feels a bit puffy, as does "a faithful remake" (according to whom?). I would recommend coming up with alternative hooks, or revising the existing one. Morgan695 (talk) 04:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Morgan695, I am open to other ideas, would you have any suggestions for alt hooks? But the sources I am familiar with (cited in the article) are pretty consistent on both counts - they consider 1994's game "classic" and the recent remake quite faithful. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Piotrus My understanding is that because DYK is being stated in "Wikipedia's voice", any subjective statement needs to be attributed to the person or group of people who made that statement. I think ALT0 can be used if it is revised to reflect that; I'm at a bit of a loss for alternate hooks, since this generally seems to be a pretty unremarkable remake. Morgan695 (talk) 15:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        • I'm thinking of something related to the playable races, like "besides humans, playable races include orcs, draconians and ant-people?" Or something like "players can create a non-magical wizard and win through military force?" ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
          • Zxcvbnm, We could but those are pretty run-of-the-mill. Since this is a remake, I think at least one of the reviews mentioned how the magic system of both games was inspired by Magic the Gathering, which could be a fun and more unusual factoid to mention. Do you have any thoughts on the hook I proposed? I stand by my view that essentially all reviews I found agree on both counts here (classic and faithful). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:38, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
            • Maybe mentioning the sheer amount of playable species? It may not be 100% original but it's still a somewhat unique aspect for a modern game. I think the original hook is simply stating an obvious fact, so it's not something that will intrigue people at all. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • ... ALT1: that the 2022 video game Master of Magic is a 4X strategy where players can customize their wizard, chose one of the fourteen playable races, and conquer two planes? [see multiple refs for the second paragraphs in the Gameplay section]
  • ... ALT2: that the 2022 video game Master of Magic is a 4X strategy with a magic system inspired by the card game Magic The Gathering? ref

Articles created/expanded on April 28Edit

History of the British 1st Division 1809–1909

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Improved to Good Article status by EnigmaMcmxc (talk) and Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 02:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/History of the British 1st Division 1809–1909; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • This would automatically meet the DYK criteria if it weren't for the fact that it has been more than a month since this was promoted to GA. That being said, this is only because no one has managed to pick up the nomination until now. I'd like a second opinion on this. Bneu2013 (talk) 16:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 29Edit

Antonio Dini

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Improved to Good Article status by Zawed (talk) and Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 17:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Antonio Dini; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Perhaps a tighter hook?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Maybe an alt something like:

  • ... that Antonio Dini was the only survivor of a three man crew after he crashed a plane into the sea, but had no recollection of the crash due to concussion? Seddon talk 01:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bazzini

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Improved to Good Article status by Amitchell125 (talk) and Rhododendrites (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 02:44, 5 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bazzini; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 30Edit

R v ACR Roofing Pty Ltd

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Created by MaxnaCarta (talk). Self-nominated at 01:45, 30 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/R v ACR Roofing Pty Ltd; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • First, dull hook ... this is hardly the only prosecution or lawsuit in any common-law country, much less Australia, to involve this sort of workplace fatality. Second, sloppily written: "the death of a construction worker falling to his death". Daniel Case (talk) 04:51, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Harsh...but fair enough Daniel Case. Thanks for pointing out I used the word death twice. Happy to use "involved a construction worker falling to his death". You say this would be dull, do you have an idea for an alternative? I'd be happy to have one put to me. I thought it would be interesting.
Daniel Case - please would you consider a second look at this? Thanks MaxnaCarta (talk) 04:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • ALT hook - ... that the High Court of Australia refused to hear an appeal of the decision made in R v ACR Roofing Pty Ltd? (Source: Harpur 2011 in article).
Thanks for pinging me. Again, this one is a dull hook ... it's not unusual for courts of last resort in common-law countries to turn cases down.

Looking over the article, what I think would work is the holding here that a contractor can be held liable for injuries to another contractor's employee on the same project if it is negligent. Give me a little time to think of clear wording ... Daniel Case (talk) 06:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 1Edit

Schweizer Seilbahninventar

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Created by Enhancing999 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:37, 8 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Schweizer Seilbahninventar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Leeds 13

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Improved to Good Article status by Mike Christie (talk) and Arnhemcr (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:48, 6 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leeds 13; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Killing of Mitch Henriquez

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Improved to Good Article status by Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike Christie (talk) and Mujinga (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Killing of Mitch Henriquez; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 2Edit

End Poem

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Tattoo quoting the End Poem
Tattoo quoting the End Poem

Converted from a redirect by Tamzin (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 8 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/End Poem; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Ana Amado

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk) and SusunW (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 22:12, 7 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ana Amado; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Justify My Love

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